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Arion SCH-1 = SCH-Z? – The Gear Page

SCH Z has a volume boost when engadged and more of a “flangerish” effect vs the purer glassy chorus effect of the SCH 1. Both are great ,if you …

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Arion SCH-1 and SCH-Z users… – Effects and Processors

The big difference is the tone control. In the SCH-1, the tone is more of a treble cut/boost control, and in the reissue Z model, the tone is …

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The SCH-1 or SCH-Z? Is the rumor true that the first one sounds better or there is no difference at all? Is it the same circuit?

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The SFC1 and the Z have a tone control that only affects the wet signal after the BBD line. In case of the SCH1 the tone control affects the …

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Vertex Arion SCH-Z Landau Chorus SCH-1 Black & Blue

The Vertex “Landau Mod” Arion Stereo Chorus recreates the unique sound of the SCH-1 Mike Landau has been using for over 20 years. Originally a factory defect, …

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Arion SCH-1 vs Boss CE-1 | Telecaster Guitar Forum

I’ve had both and eventually soldthe CE-1 -mostly cause of size.. Its the VIBRATO that i really care about. The Arion SCH-1 (not the new SCH-Z) …

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The E.W.S. Arion SCH-Z Chorus/Vibe Mod, The Ultimate …

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Product Review: Boss CE-2 vs. Arion SCH-1 – TONE WARRIOR

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Arion SCH-1 = SCH-Z?

They do sound different…and against the grain, I prefer the Z sound. The Z seems to me to do a better job of letting the original tone of the guitar shine through.

BTW, what is it with 90% of these guys who compare choruses on youtube? They spend 90% (or more) of their time on sick-bastard settings that very few folks are going to be interested in using, and almost no time (if any at all) on normal, usable settings.

Arion SCH-1 vs SCH-Z ?

I have never compared them side by side. But I have the older one (sch-1?) and have listened to clips of the newer one (sch-z?) and I don’t hear any difference. Of course YMMV, what can you tell from a clip, etc, etc… It’s a good chorus but IMO where it excels is in the fast speed where it doesn’t sound warbly or seasick like other choruses and flangers can sound. It’s pretty quiet too. It definitely needs a repackage though.

In any case I kind of suspect that the sch-1 vs.sch-z thing is just internet hype. But it only costs $19.99 to find out.

Doug

Arion Sch-z to sch-1?

Post by Dirk_Hendrik » 13 Apr 2010, 14:19

droptrd wrote: Anyone have mod info for these guys? Arion Stereo Chorus IS it possible to mod the sch-z to sch-1 spec? Or is there other mods for the z? can only find info for the sch-1

Schematics should be available here at this forum. At least, thet’s where I’ve seen em.Difference between SCH-1 and SCH-Z..requires a third Arion on stage. The SFC1 (Fat Chorus). The SCH-Z is a clone of the SFC1 with the difference that most of the transistors are replaced by FET’s. The SFC1 and the Z have a tone control that only affects the wet signal after the BBD line. In case of the SCH1 the tone control affects the signal going into the delayline, as well as the dry signal that’s being mixed with the wet level.And those are major differences.

Vertex Arion SCH-Z Landau Chorus SCH-1 Black & Blue

Vertex Landau chorus. It’s pretty much new in the box. Works perfectly. No dings or velcro. These aren’t being made anymore. Comes with original box, manual, & box foam.

The Vertex “Landau Mod” Arion Stereo Chorus recreates the unique sound of the SCH-1 Mike Landau has been using for over 20 years. Originally a factory defect, Landau’s Arion Chorus has an altered mid-range and low-end tone, and the interaction between the Depth and Tone controls is modified. It also uses the same, unusual, rare opamp found in Landau’s chorus.

Features: -True Bypass -Mono and Stereo Operation -Identical to Mike Landau’s #1 Chorus pedal -Added Vibrato Voicing (Alters Speed and Depth knobs, for more warble and low end) -Upgraded aesthetics -Runs on 9v DC/Battery

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Arion SCH-1 vs Boss CE-1

They are different

I’ve had both and eventually soldthe CE-1 -mostly cause of size.. Its the VIBRATO that i really care about. The Arion SCH-1 (not the new SCH-Z) is pretty great but defintely eats some tone – although not as much as the CE-1 !!! I have an SCH-1 on my board in a single LOOOPER mini -box..sounds great..If you can swing $250 – there a guy in Canada who makes an EXACT copy of the CE-1 – its identical sounding- I had one but sold it to a friend who was BEGGING me for it and I owed him a favor. I probably get another here soon.

Its called the Retro-Sonic Chorus Ensemble. The size of a fulldrive- maybe smaller – has all the same controls as the orig CE-1- powers by 9V – true bypass- pretty great really !! BUT IT IS a Ce-1.. the Arion is wetter and washier sounding – more chorus-ey / leslie- ish.. The CE-1 sounds “drier” to me and works MUCH better w/ overdriven sounds. I hate chorus and distortion together so…. that is my 2 cents

The E.W.S. Arion SCH-Z Chorus/Vibe Mod, The Ultimate Chorus Pedal

The original Arion SCH-1 Chorus pedal is a legendary guitar accessory. Coming to prominence during the 1980s, the SCH-1 became a staple on many professional pedal boards. Known for its deep, lush chorus sounds and tonal versatility, the Arion SCH-1 secured its spot in stomp box history. However, the SCH-1 has long since been discontinued by the Japanese based company, Arion, which today produces its modern brethren – the SCH-Z. Many tone freaks argue the superiority of the SCH-1 to the SCH-Z, citing circuitry, country of origin (the SCH-Z is made in Sri Lanka), and most importantly, sound quality, but most professionals will tell you that there is very little difference, if any at all. Save price of course – while a new SCH-Z is $50, the SCH-1 can easily fetch upwards of $100 on eBay. This discrepancy is most likely due to rarity, as vintage pedals are very collectible.

Still, with all its perfection, many players sought improvement to the Arion Chorus pedal. That’s where another Japanese based company, Engineering Work Store, comes in. Partnering with rising pedal stars, Xotic effects, E.W.S. has created their own Arion SCH-Z modification. Starting with an original Arion SCH-Z pedal, E.W.S. makes a series of modifications to improve durability and sound quality. They make the pedal True Bypass, add a brighter LED light, improve the tone adjustment knob, create a more durable foot switch, and most significantly, change the “Direct/Stereo” control switch to “Chorus/Vibe.” As opposed to having the option of producing a stereo signal, E.W.S. has created two different chorus options within a single pedal. “Chorus” mode is a more traditional, subtle chorus sound, akin to a Boss CE-5 or TC Electronic SCF. The “Vibe” channel is a deeper, more intense chorus, emulating the sonic phenomenon of a Leslie rotary speaker. Although you lose the option of having a stereo signal, you gain an exponential amount of tonal range and diversity. Plus, how many of us are really using a true stereo set up on stage anyway?

Overall, this is a flawless chorus pedal. From George Harrison-esque Leslie sounds, to Eric Johnson chorus sparkle, to Stevie Ray Vaughn styled blues chorus, to just plain far out, this pedal does it all – and well! A great blend of classic tone and modern technology, the E.W.S. Arion Chorus/Vibe Mod is a great purchase for anyone looking for a unique addition to their pedal board. At $195, this is a professional-grade pedal that will exceed your chorus expectations and last a lifetime – just ask some of the pedal’s biggest proponents, Joe Bonamassa, Scott Henderson, Oz Noy, and Allen Hinds!

Check out the E.W.S. website for more information on this pedal

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The Arion SCH-1 Stereo Chorus began life in the late 80′s as a very affordable (perhaps even cheap!) alternative to Boss’s CE-2 and other chorus pedals. It was largely ignored in the pro community, most likely due to its low price and cheap plastic finish, but in recent years it has seen a surge in popularity after Landau was spotted using one. There are a couple of different versions of the circuit, the oldest in a grey plastic box, then the one we are reviewing in the black plastic box. There is also the SCH-Z which is a newer take on the circuit and many people say it isn’t as ‘good’ as the SCH-1. There was also another version which is quite rare known as the Stereo Fat Chorus (SFC) which is said to be the holy grail of chorus but very few are around.

For the record I have at once owned a grey box SCH-1, black box SCH-1 and also the SCH-Z. They were all a little different and my favourite is the one we are reviewing today, the black box SCH-1.

Features

Three knobs (which is one more than many other chorus pedals) and a switch for selecting between mono or stereo operation.

Rate – The Rate knob has a pretty big range and can go from a slow evolving soundscape to a very quick, sea-sick warbly tone and all of those beautiful places inbetween.

Depth – Again, a very wide range going from nigh on still to very deep.

Tone – The unique SCH-1 tone control. This is perhaps the secret to the SCH-1′s success. It is quite an original tone circuit, particularly for a chorus pedal, and is capable of creating some very sweet, crystal clear sounds. Equally it can provide some dark, almost muddy tones which are perfect for that leslie-cabinet emulation we all crave.

Direct / Stereo Switch – A basic mono or stereo operation selector switch. The beauty is that even in mono the Stereo selection DOES alter the tone and sound of the pedal. I always have mine on the stereo setting, it seems to be a little deeper and a little clearer the reasons for which are unknown but most people do seem to agree.

The Dreaded Buffer!

The SCH-1 is NOT a true bypass pedal but is the buffer as bad as it could be? The answer is no, in fact quite the opposite; many people rave about how good a buffer it is and prefer to have it in their signal chain for their buffering needs. It isn’t an incredibly difficult mod to make this pedal true bypass (and lots of companies are now doing just that) but many people also like to utilise the buffer. Considering the cheapness of the pedal (and therefore the likely cheapness of the components) the buffer is actually pretty good.

The final point I want to make before we evaluate the pedal is that, when engaged, there is a small leap in volume. It isn’t a mega hassle but something that you should be aware of.

Sounds

So then, how does it sound? Is it as good as everybody else says it is? Is it the holy grail of chorus pedals? Or just a load of hype? Any more questions?….

Right off the bat the SCH-1 is a wonderful sounding chorus unit. It has been my chorus of choice for several years now and I have owned several newer and much more expensive pedals but I always find myself going back to the SCH-1.

Firstly it excels as a basic chorus unit adding depth and dimension to a clean tone. With the Rate at around 9 ‘o’clock, Depth at around 1 ‘o’clock and Tone at 1 ‘o’clock you get a very three-dimensional, rich chorus sound that really adds sparkle and life to any clean guitar tone. Rolling the Tone down with these settings gives an even thicker, richer chorus sound that can become quite muddy but is very reminiscent to that Roland Jazz Chorus sound that is quite sought after. With the Rate backed off and the Depth up full you achieve the widest, deepest chorus available from this unit and it provides and atmospheric, pad-like, evolving sound that the Shoegazers and Ambient players will love.

With the Rate and Depth cranked it is easy to get those completely OTT, warbling tones that, whilst quite unmusical, can be used occasionally for a great sucking, sea-sick effect and all without little to no clock noise.

Rolling both the Rate and Depth back to more sensible levels you start to hear what this pedal has become famous for, a reasonably realistic and very musical leslie effect. It is much more realistic and pleasant than a vibrato sound trying to achieve the same effect and this is where the Tone control is especially useful. Set bright it provides a very modern, pristine vibrato / leslie sound but set down in the dark regions it really thickens up and gives and incredibly rich, realistic leslie simulation. Of course there are many pedals that now attempt to achieve this sound, and many of these can cost hundreds of pounds, but lots of players keep going back to the SCH-1 to achieve this effect as it is very affordable, ‘realistic enough,’ and probably about the best ‘bang for the buck.’

Now, I’m not really a fan of chorus on dirty tones (for clarity: anything more than ‘crunchy’) so the SCH-1 doesn’t particularly excite me in this area and I also find it quite spikey and harsh when being hit by high volumes or gain, but maybe that is just me. On a mildly crunchy tone the leslie effect does work remarkably and this is what you will hear the likes of Landau doing.

Overall

It is very hard to say anything negative about the SCH-1 considering its now legendary status and the price it is available at. That said, the volume boost when engaged can cause a few minor problems and the plastic enclosure is not the most reliable. They don’t exactly fall apart in your hands, but they also don’t instil much confidence when you accidentally stomp a little too hard which is why many people are opting to have their’s rehoused or have sturdy footswitches installed.

The buffer is another, if you are running a large board without a buffer you might find the SCH-1 quite beneficial to your overall tone, but if you already have a few buffers then adding another could start to be problematic too.

All-in-all this is my favourite chorus pedal that I have ever tried, second only to a handful of rack units (and perhaps the TC Electronic SCF). Whilst the SCH-1 is no longer made it is quite easy to get a hold of second hand on auction sites and forums so snap some up whilst you still can!

TONE WARRIOR: Product Review: Boss CE-2 vs. Arion SCH-1

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