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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:44 AM Post subject: Brosol Solex H30/31 Carb Jets? Can anyone point me to a supplier(s) that sells carburetor jets for the Brosul/Solex H30/31 carburetor? I put a new one in my ’71 bus and the main engine is a 120 and it’s too lean. I prefer not to open the existing nozzle but try a few replacements. A jet kit would be nice. I think probably a 127.5 or 130 would be a good place to start. Many Thanks.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: Solex Jets
http://www.vw-resource.com/carb.html#brosol
http://www.vw-resource.com/jets.html#30 Hi, if I remember correctly the jets in the Pict 34s were the same. Here are some links on the topic. Hope that helps! Much luck
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Posted: Sun February 12, 2012 8:59 AM Post subject: Can anyone tell me on this subject why this carburetor has 2 idle jets?
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Posted: Sun February 12, 2012 9:05 am Post subject: Not sure how close you are to OK City. Bethany Imports is OKC. And in my search I visited motorcycle shops. Some Japanese bikes with carbs. drive similar jets. Try to talk to the mechanics and not the parts geeks at the counter. Much luck.
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Posted: Sun February 12, 2012 12:03 PM Post subject: Mr. Unpopular wrote: On the subject, can anyone tell me why this carburetor has 2 idle jets?
Yes!
http://www.vw-resource.com/jets.html Yes!
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Posted: Sun February 12, 2012 3:11 PM Post subject: Thanks for all the posts. Bethany didn’t have the sizes I wanted but opened the jet up to a 130. I’ll look at air cooled and other places online. Maybe find a cheap used 34pict and check the nozzles. Thanks again.
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Posted: Sun February 12, 2012 4:22 PM Post subject: Mr. Unpopular wrote: On the subject, can anyone tell me why this carburetor has 2 idle jets?
Found that in the link.
The H30/31 carburettor has two brass jets on the right side (right is on the right of the car). The angled one (points slightly backwards) is the idle jet. The other (pointing directly to the right side of the car) is the Power Jet, which supplies extra fuel at high throttle/high rpm. The power jet is needed to correct the tendency for the air correction jet to work TOO well at maximum airflow – it leans the mixture too much and the power jet corrects this.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12 2015 2:22 PM Post subject: Tcash wrote: Mr. Unpopular wrote: On the subject, can anyone tell me why this carburetor has 2 idle jets?
Found that in the link.
The H30/31 carburettor has two brass jets on the right side (right is on the right of the car). The angled one (points slightly backwards) is the idle jet. The other (pointing directly to the right side of the car) is the Power Jet, which supplies extra fuel at high throttle/high rpm. The power jet is needed to correct the tendency for the air correction jet to work TOO well at maximum airflow – it leans the mixture too much and the power jet corrects this.
This information is incorrect. The idle jet is towards the front of the vehicle, the power jet towards the rear of the vehicle. Rob and Dave’s page is bogus and has been the source of quite a few threads about which jet is which.
Edited for jet names
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1967 Java Green Bug thread
Engine Recovery Thread This information is incorrect. The idle jet is towards the front of the vehicle, the power jet towards the rear of the vehicle. Rob and Dave’s website is bogus and has been the source of quite a few threads about which jet is which. Edited for jet name _________________Robert in Memphis
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Posted: Wed Aug 12 2015 3:59 PM Post subject: scrivyscriv wrote: The idle jet is directed towards the front of the vehicle, and the air correction jet is towards the back…
Sigh. Well no not quite but thanks for reminding everyone of the fake information from this source. It is quite amazing how much time and space is/was devoted to thesamba
to clear up the misinformation coming from these guys.
Here is the straight skinny:
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No more dead photo links! Post your photos to the Samba Gallery! Sigh. Well no not quite but thanks for reminding everyone of the fake information from this source. It’s quite amazing how much time and space on Thesamba is spent correcting the misinformation coming from these guys ___’67 bug: seized by authorities’68 bug: seized by authorities’71 combo: not yet seized by authorities
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:47pm Post subject: Ok, what am I missing here. The positions appear to be correct. Is it the nomenclature that confuses the issue?
Glutamodo says so
No. 3 is the idle jet (pilot jet)
#0 is the aux jet (power jet)
#3 (angled (pointing slightly toward the rear of the car) is the idle jet.
#0 (pointing directly to the right side of the car) is the Power Jet
glutamodo wrote: With the H30/31, the additional jet is 50, the idle jet is 65.
The Power Fuel Jets are located in the top half of the carburetor.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:47pm Post subject:
Pos. 9 air correction nozzle
Pos. 17 main jet
Pos. 34 pilot nozzle
The table lists the following:
Air correction nozzle 60Z
Main jet x125
Pilot jet g57.5
Compared to the image in question, the nozzle sizes are all slightly larger, but it makes it clear what nozzle each size can reasonably represent.
I wish the Bentley had been more specific, but of course we all know how vague it can be on some subjects.
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Engine Rebuild Thread Someone mistranslated the German in this article. I also don’t know what a 31-pict 3 is, it’s not an H30/31 and it’s not in my Green Bentley. We’re talking about a bay window here, aren’t we? Pos. 9 Air correction jet Pos. 17 Main jet Pos. 34 Pilot jet The table shows the following: Air correction jet 60 Z Main jet x 125 Pilot jet g 57.5 Compared to the picture in question, the jet sizes are all slightly larger, but clearly specifies which Jets of any size can reasonably be expected. I wish the Bentley had been more specific, but of course we’re all aware of how vague it can be on some subjects. _________________Robert in Memphis
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:39pm Post subject:
But Andy’s diagram shows the similar jet layout as the 30PICT-3 bus carburetor. But what confuses me is if an idle shutoff is used, why is it screwed into the one marked “auxiliary fuel” when it would be more useful in the idle circuit. If it only comes into play at full throttle, why does it need a shutdown, and why should the supposed “idle” not need a shutdown?
I need to find some junk carb and cut it up to see where these passages go.
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No more dead photo links! Post your photos to the Samba Gallery! 31PICT-3 and 34PICT-3 are two completely different units, the 31 came on Euro supplied 1300 Beetles and the 34 was used on dual port 1600. But Andy’s diagram shows the similar jet layout as the 30PICT-3 bus carburetor. But what confuses me is if an idle shutoff is used, why is it screwed into the one marked “auxiliary fuel” when it would be more useful in the idle circuit. If it only comes into play at full throttle, why does it need a shutdown, and why should the supposed “idle” not need a shutdown? I have to find some junk carb and saw it up to see where exactly those passages go._________________Rust NEVER sleeps and the stash never goes out of style.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:52pm Post subject:
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Busdaddy, what carb is the picture of? The pilot jets on all my 30pict3s are like your picture. The power nozzle is not adjustable. [Colin looked it over years ago and ended up drilling out the passage (or nozzles?) for experimentation.] The solenoid shown is for the idle circuit as well. This is where the H30/31 differs in that the power fuel flow is said to be adjustable. The H30/31 has the cutoff on the left like a 34pict3. Now I’m confused because of all the charts and labels.
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Learn how your vintage VW works. And why not. After playing around with an H30/31 for a year, I went on to play around with a 34pict3 for two years. Now I’m on the 30pict3 bandwagon, and I think I’ll stick with it for a while. That being said, they are all completely different in terms of installation. It’s not obvious when looking at the plumbing, but following the passages with liquid and performing flagrant LM-1 based jet swaps (like 45 to 70 pilots) tells us a lot about how they are all so different . The charts are useful for numbers and locations, but we must be careful not to remove labels from other carb photos. For example, Glutamodo posted a picture of the 31pict3 and then described it as H30/31, even though some variants of these carbs are different. This confuses things so busdaddy what carb is the picture of? The pilot jets on all my 30pict3s are like your picture. The power nozzle is not adjustable. [Colin looked it over years ago and ended up drilling out the passage (or nozzles?) for experimentation.] The solenoid shown is for the idle circuit as well. This is where the H30/31 differs in that the power fuel flow is said to be adjustable. The H30/31 has the cutoff on the left like a 34pict3. Now I’m confused with all the diagrams and labels.Robbie_________________—Learn how your vintage VW works. And why not.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:59 PM Post subject: asianb3 wrote: Sun
Busdaddy, what carb is the picture of?
I nicked it from the gallery, Dana Champion posted it and says it’s 30PICT-1 and -3. The carburetor in the picture says 30PICT-3 on the side.
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No more dead photo links! Post your photos to the Samba Gallery! I nicked it from the gallery, Dana Champion posted it and says it’s 30PICT-1 and -3. The carburetor in the picture says 30PICT-3 on the side. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and the stock never goes out of style. Wanted, OG livery 1971 Niagara Blue trunk lid.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:23pm Post subject:
Does anyone here have any MFR literature on the carburetor with a breakdown?
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Engine Overhaul Thread Basically we all wanted to give a definitive answer as to WHICH PORT on the H30/31 is for the actual idle jet. I can guarantee Rob and Dave’s website has a lot of bug owners injecting their carbs the wrong way! Does anyone here have some MFR literature on the carbs with a breakdown? _________________Robert in Memphis
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Posted: Wed 12 Aug 2015 8:28 PM Post subject: scrivyscriv wrote: So what we were all after is a definitive answer as to WHICH PORT on the H30/31 is for the actual idle jet. I can guarantee Rob and Dave’s website has a lot of bug owners injecting their carbs the wrong way!
Does anyone here have any MFR literature on the carburetor with a breakdown?
Glutamodo, who knows more about carbs than probably anyone else here, says the H30/31 copies its idle circuitry from the non-US 31pict3. The image below shows the 31pict3 which should be identical to the H30/31. This means that the slanted rear jet is the idle/ignition jet and the (0) jet is the “power” auxiliary fuel jet. (As far as I know, 30pict3 and 34pict3 don’t have this jet as a serviceable item.)
The photo is from VW Technical Bulletin K-40, April 1971, and Glutamodo did the translations himself.
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Learn how your vintage VW works. And why not. Glutamodo, who knows more about carbs than probably anyone else here, says the H30/31 copies its idle circuitry from the non-US 31pict3. The image below shows the 31pict3 which should be identical to the H30/31. This means that the slanted rear jet is the idle/ignition jet and the (0) jet is the “power” auxiliary fuel jet. (30pict3 and 34pict3 do not have this jet as a serviceable item as far as I know.) The photo is from VW Technical Bulletin K-40, April 1971, and Glutamodo did the translations himself. Robbie_________________ — Learn how your vintage VW works. And why not.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:45pm Post subject:
Edit, I’m by no means a carb guy, just looking for solid answers to this. The site is full of threads that have conflicting information about it!
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Engine Overhaul Thread Which leads me to question the jet sizes, they don’t look right for the jets they are supposed to be. Edit, I’m by no means a carb guy, just looking for solid answers on this. The site is full of threads that contain conflicting information about this!_________________Robert in Memphis
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Posted: Wed Aug 12 2015 8:45 PM Post subject: scrivyscriv wrote: What makes me question is the nozzle sizes, they don’t look right for the nozzles they are supposed to be.
The size is relative to the pressure and volume required. what makes no sense
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Engine rebuild thread It may be due to the different terminology. When I see a 145 jet, it doesn’t strike me as “main jet” size, it seems way too big. I don’t have any books on the carbohydrates that Glutamodo refers to, but I wish I had. It would be very helpful to be able to compare the numbers with the 34 pictures of 3._________________Robert in Memphis
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