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Bow Technologies ZZ-Eight CD player
“Something’s coming,don’t knowit is,it isna be great!”Tony,
While the Sharks and the Jets rumble in the consumer electronics playground, knife-fighting for supremacy in the next software go-round, in 1998 we’re still living in the 16-bit/44.1kHz audio world, and will be doing so for the foreseeable future. Maybe your idea of audio bliss is listening to the equivalent of computing with a Commodore 64, but it’s not mine.
Will the future bring us Sony’s and Philips’ “Super Audio” CD? Could be! Or the Working Group 4’s (aka Toshiba, Matsushita, Pioneer, JVC, Hitachi, Thomson, et al) 24-bit/96kHz DVD-Audio? Who knows?
As we head into the next century, whatever it is we’re gonna get may be just out of reach as of mid-1998, but it’s still down a very long block. Yes, the “miracle” is due, but don’t hold your breath. And, like Leonard Bernstein, this West Side Story metaphor is rapidly decomposing, so I’ll bury it.
We’re in for a protracted fight over the next digital format. Add the multichannel issue, resistance by a skeptical record industry, and an already overstuffed retail business not eager for yet another new floor-space filler, and you can see why we won’t have a new, readily available high-resolution digital format anytime soon.
For those of us who’ve never embraced CD enthusiastically, the past 15 years have been a period of extreme frustration tinged with a great deal of anger and topped with a dollop of disgust. Of necessity we’ve bought CD players, transports, and D/A converters, and tinkered with green paint, digital cables, jitter-reduction boxes, resolution enhancers, AT&T glass, AES/EBU connectors, and so onbut in the end, when we sit down to listen to and emotionally connect with music, it’s on vinyl, at least as far as I am concerned.
Looking back, those who posted their charts of flat frequency response, ultrawide channel separation, and low noise and distortion in order to “prove” the perfection of digital audio, look pretty foolish today. The only thing they proved was that digital solved most of analog’s most vexing problems. Digital’s problems weren’t measurable at that time, therefore they didn’t exist! How convenient. When anyone pointed out that something they heard on a CD didn’t sound quite right, it was analog’s fault. Remember? Either the “purity” of CD was revealing the analog source’s faults, or the listener wasn’t yet used to the “perfection.”
The real heroes of the pioneering digital era were the guys and gals who figured out what was really worth measuring in the digital domain that was causing the audible problems, so they could be fixed. The villains were those who maintainedand, incredibly, continue to maintainthat there were and are no problems.
While all of the past decade’s innovations and discoveries in the digital domain have led to some genuine and sometimes startling sonic improvements, at the end of the day we’re still left holding a 16-bit/44.1kHz bag. No wonder sales of expensive outboard DACs and transports have just about ground to a halt. To drag out another old show lyric, “They’ve gone about as far as they can go.”
The one-box solution
What better way to usher out the 16-bit/44.1kHz era than to simplify life with a single box incorporating everything that’s been learned over the past decade and a half? That’s what Bow Technologies’ Bo Christensen (along with many other manufacturers of late) figured when he set out to design the stylish $6900 ZZ-Eight. While the company makes a far more expensive separate transport (ZZ-Two) and processor (ZZ-Three) combo, the ZZ-Eight incorporates many of the innovations found in those two boxes, including (and especially) the I2S data buss between the modified Philips CDM 12Pro CD-ROM drive and the processor section, which utilizes the Pacific Microsonics PMD 100 HDCD filter.
There are two big cost-saving differences between the ZZ-Eight’s inboard processor and the outboard ZZ-Three. First is the ZZ-Eight’s use of two stacked K-grade Burr-Brown PCM 1702 20-bit/8x-oversampling D/A converters per channel instead of the ZZ-Three’s four. Second is the ZZ-Eight’s current/voltage conversion, which uses two Analog Devices 744 op-amp chips instead of the ZZ-Three’s discrete, single-ended, class-A zero-feedback design, featuring big, expensive Jensen paper/oil decoupling caps and four power supplies per channel. You can’t have it all for $6900, but, as I found during my time with the ZZ-Eight, you can still have plenty!
Let’s get physical
The top-loading, low-slung ZZ-Eight is one of the most aesthetically pleasing players you’ll encounter, and it’s built like a bomb shelter. Its guts are housed in a 35-lb hunk of sculpted, satin-polished, anodized black aluminum you’ll want to run your hands over often. The chassis rests on four feet fitted with medium-hard rubber donuts designed to decouple the unit from the outside world.
In addition, Bow Tech supplies a single metal cone that screws into the rear center of the chassis’ underside and couples with a massive brass internal subchassis that houses the transport mechanism. Buyers are asked to experiment with the cone in place of the two rear feet to hear which setup sounds better.
An easily legible, mercifully large acrylic LED display protrudes from the chassis front. Six brass-colored push switches adorn the unit’s top plate, to the front and on either side of the disc receptacle. The chassis rear houses a master On/Off rocker switch, IEC AC jack, Teflon-insulated RCA analog output jacks, andshould you wish to use the ZZ-Eight as a transportboth RCA and preferred, true 75 ohm BNC digital outputs. (A $5500 transport-only version is available.)
The spoked, self-centering magnetic disc stabilizer is easy to use, but you have to be careful not to scratch the chassis when you drop the stabilizer into place. Playback is rapid and straightforward once the disc is in place and you’ve switched the machine from Standby to On via the remote control or the top-mounted switch.
Bow Technologies ZZ EIGHT CD Players user reviews : 4.4 out of 5
[Jan 28, 2007] Volker Rothenpieler AudioPhile Strength: Outstanding look and feel. Great resolution and silky tone. Unique in the top high end range conerning earthy tone and space.My recommendation if you own a 20 Bit ZZ-Eight: yes, do the upgrade to 24 Bit. If you want to buy a high end player: Try the ZZ-Eight.
Weakness: There is only one thing I don’t like with my Bow. The ZZ-Eight uses two transformers, one for the drive and one for the converter. Since there is only little room in the cabinet the typical conventional transformers (with blue plastic cabinet) are mounted directly on the circuit board. I don’t like transformers being mounted directly on the circuit board. The vibrations of the transformers are transmitted to the circuit, where microfone effects will – or at least can – harm the sound. The two transformers of my Bow produces hum that is audible close to the player. Audible hum is an indicator for vibrations. A perfect solution would be an external power supply using huge toroid transformers being isolated from the power supply cabinet. If Bow would offer such an upgrade I would buy it. This criticism don’t prevents me from rating 5 stars. I bought the Bow ZZ-Eight in 2002 second hand. In December 2006 I ordered the upgrade to 24 Bit DAC.
Design & cabinet
It was not changed since the player entered the market 1996. A good decision. The design is puristical, elegant and really timeless. Announce the Bow to people not knowing the product history as a new release: they won’t doubt it. Perhaps the Bow one time will be one of the few Hifi products which will be in production over some decades with an unchanged cabinet. I hope so: the metal of the case is really fun to touch, the switches of the case and the remote are outstanding concerning build quality and ergonomics. The weight of 16 Kilogramm indicates that it is build for eternity, it also may be the reason for the special sonic qualities I describe below.
Technology
What technology do you get with the upgrade to 24 Bit DAC? I opened the cabinet and saw a beautifully designed SMD circuit board fully packed with quality components. The two PCM1704K 24Bit D/A converters I detected were no surprise. But I also registered two Analog Devices AD797 op amps in the output stage. The initial 20Bit DAC used two Analog Devices AD744. The AD744 cost around the half of the AD797, so it seemed to me that also the analogue output section was improved. In my opinion the analogue output stage is as important as the converter (in another component I replaced the OPA134 op amps by OPA627 with significant sonic improvements). All other components I detected kept the high quality level, e.g. Wima capacitors and Panasonic FC capacitors (which replace the Elna capacitors of the previous versions of the 24Bit DAC). My upgrade package also included a replacement of the Philips CDM12 Pro drive to the newer CD2 Pro. The drives look very similar. The functional advantages of the CD2 Pro drive I detected were a quicker spinning up time and a quicker skip between titles. Copy protected CD’s which the CDM12 didn’t play were no problem for the CD2 Pro. So far I have found no CD in my collection, where the Bow skipped because of CD bugs. The CD2 Pro is used in many of the top loader high end players (e.g. Burmester).
Sonic quality
The sonic quality let you forget the money you spend for the upgrade. The upgraded Bow has a level of resolution as well as a silky and smooth tone which the initial model did not have. The difference concerning these criteria are clear, not subtle. The resolution and tone is as good as the best high end players you can get. I prefer the sonic profile of the Bow to other high end players because of two more sonic attributes. The Bow sounds earthy, a character I often miss when hearing CD with other components. A character I usually don’t miss when playing vinyl. Secondly the Bow is unique building space: singers and musical instruments gets concrete, you think you can grab them. A feature also many audiophiles – and I – usually associate with high end analogue gear. I assume that the construction of the Philips drive embedded in a bulky cabinet causes this trait. But I have no proof for this assumption. Customer Service Bow made a strength out of a weakness. In the past customer communication und period for doing upgrades of equipment were below average – at least in my perception. And now? Bow did my upgrade during December 2006 and I am enthusiastic. Excellent communication – even about the progress of the upgrade in Denmark, great shipment service with TNT, fair clearing of special requests, perfect technical work. Absolutely above average. Big compliment to Bo Christensen and Lars Nygaard Moltke.
OVERALL
RATING 5 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ VALUE
RATING 5 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
Bow Technologies ZZ-Eight CD Player Reviewed
It could have grown out of the ZZ-One integrated amp, a Siamese twin just itching to use its amplifying sibling as a plinth. Whether or not it should be ‘stacked’ is doubtful, given the ventilating properties of the ZZ-One’s end pieces and designer Bo Christensen’s obsessive attitude toward component positioning. Measuring 430x96x340mm (WHD), the ZZ-Eight sports the same gloss-black ‘floating’ front panel, the same curved, solid metal end sections, the same delicate gold accents. It’s so luscious a design that a reviewer with an aesthete’s tendencies might find it hard not to succumb to the looks alone.
It’s an engineering marvel, too, the size belying a weight of 16kg. It seems as if carved from solid, in stark contrast to so many components which are – literally – boxes full of air, hot or otherwise. Everything about it is dense and condensed, in opposition to the still-lingering 1980s high-end philosophy of ‘bigger is better’. And it’s so ‘right’, from the blacked-out, minimalist display to the array of only six switches. The minor controls are relegated to the remote, so the ‘Eight itself is clean and simple, but never crossing the line between minimalism and masochism.
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When you switch on the AC rocker mounted on the back, the front panel shows only the word ‘standby’ in red. Rear-positioning of the on/off switch is deliberate because encourages the user to leave the Bow in ‘standby’ mode when not in use; the player suffers the same kind of warm-up requirements as a power amplifier. Best to treat it like a VCR, which is always in standby mode between active periods.
Engage play and large red digits tell you track number and one of the time modes. You can scroll through time elapsed or remaining, while stopping the CD provides a read-out of total disc time. Other legends appear as required, such as ‘HDCD’ and ‘pause’. What’s so nice about this bold display is that it’s legible at a far greater distance than small, pale blue numbers. And if you’re of the all-displays-are-bad school, you can, from the listening seat via remote, dim the display or turn it off entirely. And you can hear the difference.
On top, the transport controls plus standby are arranged in opposing groups of three. These toggles stand proud and are easy to use, ‘intermittent’ types which require a gentle flick before springing back in position. The end result is that they’re always vertical for perfect visual symmetry, and in a sloped position only during the instant that switching takes place. In the centre of the upper surface is the opening for the CD, this top loader using a beautifully machined, lightweight puck which looks like a wheel off a Ferrari. Cleverly, Bow provides a ‘dummy’ CD, with graphics on the ‘label’ side and leather on the underside, to put in place when the ‘Eight is not in use; this keeps dust out of the CD aperture, most important as the puck is a spoked rather than a closed-surface disc, and the ‘Eight lacks the sliding lid of most top-loaders.
Naturally, the back contains hardware worthy of a £3999.95 player, gold-plated and confidence inspiring, and it’s here that you find another of designer Bo Christensen’s personal preferences taking precedence over marketing concerns. So convinced is the design team that coaxial betters optical that the digital outputs consist of only RCA and BNC coaxial; optical isn’t offered. Audiophile bias notwithstanding, this is a rather self-abnegating way of proving a point, however admirable such purism may be. Practice might show that some users actually want TOSlink or AT&T outputs. I respect Bow for sticking to its guns, but I also reckon that such hubris could cost a few lost sales. Me? I’m a coax man, too, so I mention this only as an observer.
At the heart of the ‘Eight is the die-cast Philips CDM12 Pro drive mechanism – actually a CD-ROM mechanism – bolted to a large brass inner structure. This direct coupling was chosen over springy isolation because listening showed it to be superior. The company attributes more stable imaging and deeper bass to this arrangement. The spiking, intended for surfaces where the user already has ‘a solid grounding path’, should also enhance imaging and bass quality.
Read more about the ZZ-Eight on Page 2.
Modifying the CDM12 Pro to accept the stabiliser involved changing
the standard centring device; the replacement is made from an
anti-static material. Bow feels that the ‘Eight’s stabiliser improves
rotation stability, resulting in audible gains. Indeed, the company
studied the way the puck touches the CD, the exact positioning of the
magnet, the weight, all of which produce effects of their own.
Underneath, too, extra care has been exercised. The rubber rings used
in the feet are something like the tenth type that the designers tried.
This preferred soft rubber offers good isolation properties and helps
to kill unwanted vibration. Here, Bow does give a choice, as you can use
the player on its four rubbery feet, or remove the back two and fit a
centrally-positioned spike. Bow isn’t dictating a solution so much as
addressing different types of tables, stands and environments. I tried a
few and can confirm that this is a vital part of the fine-tuning
procedure.
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The above describes what might become the ZZ-Two transport. The DAC
section which makes the ‘Eight a standalone player consists of four
Burr-Brown 1702 converters of the ‘K’ selection type – the best B-Bs
available. Bow stacks them on top of each other to guarantee the
shortest possible path and to provide perfect temperature stability; ICs
are stacked for the same reasons. The quartet of 1702s offers 20-bit,
x8 resolution, the stacking enabling the chips to yield even greater
low-level resolution and wider dynamics. The unit also features HDCD
processing, but I’m reserving comment until I have more than just a
bunch of audiophile albums and the odd commercial CD by which to judge
it.
Bow has opted for special low-noise, ‘soft recovery’ diodes and 45000
mF filtering in the DACs’ power supply, the latter chosen after
determining that the extra filtering delivered audibly superior
performance over the minimally specified 16000 mF. Two 2mm-thick PCBs
with 70 micron copper layers contain the carefully selected components,
including non-magnetic Roederstein carbon film resistors in certain
positions, chosen because “they sound better”.
Given the almost anal approach Christensen has to fine-tuning, I
undertook an equally haemorrhoidal listening programme, trying a flimsy
table, a solid floor, and a dedicated equipment rack of the lunatic
persuasion for support duties. Interconnects included Audio Conseil
silver cables (from Italy), XLO green’n’purple, and some black and red
beauties from WireWorld. Although I tried the ‘Eight as a transport on
its own, the lack of a digital input meant that I couldn’t assess the
DAC section on its own. Suffice to say, if the ZZ-Two sounds as good,
it’ll justify a price tag of 3000.
Auditioned through Sutherland 2000 pre/power amps into Wilson
WATT/Puppy System V.1 or the GRAAF WFB-TWO pre-amp/GRAAF 5050 into Quad
ESLs, the ZZ-Eight demonstrated with shocking immediacy just how much of
a clean-up can be applied to CD. Admittedly, my preferred CD players do
their best to ‘analogue-ify’ a digital signal and I shy away from
warts’n’all portrayal, but the ‘Eight managed to provide the latter
without encouraging the onset of listener fatigue. Think of certain tube
amps which bridge two eras, audio sleight-of-hand not to be
underestimated.
Yeah, it’s magical, alright. With Keb’ Mo’s eponymous debut CD, its
twang’n’jangle content taunting a system into sibilant overload, the Bow
extracts crystal-clear bottleneck which never acquires an unwanted buzz
or crackle. Layered behind a textured voice, this is a sonic
tightrope-walking act that elicits more than admiration: it leaves you
breathless. Why? Because the sound stays uncluttered and convincing.
There’s enough three-dimensionality here to keep a mini-monitor
fetishist glued to his seat. Detail? You could probably guess which beer
bottle provided the slide on your favourite blues album. Speed? The
notes will fly by before you knew they were coming. But they’re just
specifics. What’s so refreshing about the ‘Eight is that it presents a
‘whole’ that’s quite unlike that of the competition.
It’s a signature you’ll identify the minute you hear the ‘Eight, a
curious but pleasing mix of analogue warmth and sheen with digital
precision and control. The bass energy of this player is something to
behold, a boon for headbangers and marching band fans alike, while the
midband complements even an electrostatic. It can rock or it can swoon.
It can handle the most delicate of female voices and acoustic strings,
or it can deal with the unpleasantness of Sonic Youth. Frankly, it’s one
of the most completely satisfying pieces of hardware I’ve enjoyed this
year.
And looks had nuthin’ to do with it.
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Bow Technologies ZZ-8 – Singapore & Malaysia Hifi
STATUS – SOLD
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Description :
The Bow Technologies ZZ-8 sports the same gloss ‘floating’ front panel, the curved and solid metal end sections, and delicate gold accents as the ZZ-1. It retains the best attributes of all the others and took a step or two beyond them, resulting in the best CD reproduction. It has the slam of the Krell, the body of the Audio Research, added to a vibrancy and overall organic musicality result in the closest to analog sound. The Bow Technologies ZZ-8 is an engineering marvel, the size belying a weight of 16kg, from the blacked-out, minimalist display to the array of only six switches.
When the AC rocker mounted on the back is switched on, the front panel shows only the word ‘standby’ in red. Rear-positioning of the on/off switch is deliberate because encourages the user to leave the Bow Technologies ZZ-8 in ‘standby’ mode when not in use; the player suffers the same kind of warm-up requirements as a power amplifier. Engage play and large red digits tells the user the track number and one of the time modes. The Bow Technologies ZZ-8 displays the time elapsed or remaining, while stopping the CD provides a read-out of total disc time. Other legends appear as required, such as ‘HDCD’ and ‘pause’. On top, the transport controls plus standby are arranged in opposing groups of three. These toggles stand proud and are easy to use, ‘intermittent’ types which require a gentle flick before springing back in position. In the center of the upper surface is the opening for the CD, which the top loader uses a beautifully machined, lightweight puck.
The Bow Technologies ZZ-8’s sonic signature is a curious but pleasing mix of analogue warmth and sheen with digital precision and control. The bass energy of this player is something to behold, a boon for headbangers and marching band fans alike, while the midband complements even an electrostatic. It can handle the most delicate of female voices and acoustic strings. The system was astonishingly brilliant and transparent, yet smooth and effortless at the same time. It can pick out minute detail and is very easy to listen to. Soundstage is enhanced greatly and played with fluency, “fullness” and richness of each note. The Bow Technologies ZZ-8 has a great presentation of the music which the musicians perform in front of the listener in full size flesh and blood.
Specifications :
Frequency Response……………………5Hz to 20kHz, 0.3dB
Signal-to-Noise Ratio……………………Better than 110dB
Total Harmonic Distortion………………0.002 at 1kHz, 0.007, 10Hz to 20kHz
Dynamic Range…………………………..Better than 96dB
Phase Linearity…………………………..Better than 0.3
Channel Separation……………………..Better than 98dB, 1kHz
Wow And Flutter…………………………Unmeasurable
Analog Output…………………………….2.75V RMS
Digital Outputs……………………………0.5V p-p, 75 ohms
Digital Filter……………………………….Burr-Brown
Digital-to-Analog Converter…………….Double Burr-Brown 1704, 24-bit
CD Drive Mechanism……………………Philips Pro2M (modified)
Power Requirements……………………100 or 120 or 230V /-10, 50/60 Hz
Power Consumption…………………….40 watts max
Dimensions(w x d x h)………………….43 x 34.5 x 8.5 cm
Weight……………………………………..14kg
Miscellaneous :
Remote…………………………………….No Remote
Made In…………………………………….Denmark
Condition…………………………………..8/10
Product Information :
http://www.bowtechnologies.com/bow/index1.html (Manufacturer’s Website)
Reviews :
http://hometheaterreview.com/bow-technologies-zz-eight-cd-player-reviewed/
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/digital-sources/cd-players/bow-technologies/zz-eight/prd_116811_1586crx.aspx
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