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mayfair open rose reproductions – Depression Glass Antiques
The Mayfair Open Rose pattern has three different pitchers which were made in the colors pink, green, blue, and yellow. The pitchers in green and yellow glass …
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Anchor Hocking, Mayfair Pink | Replacements, Ltd.
Description: Pink, Open Rose, Depression Glass. Pattern: Mayfair Pink by Anchor Hocking. Status: Discontinued. Actual: 1931 – 1937.
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Mayfair (Open Rose) Cookie Jar
Mayfair (Open Rose)
cookie jar
The Mayfair pattern, also known as the Open Rose, has been reproduced since 1977. Original cookie jars were made in pink, blue, green, and yellow. Reproductions were made in pink, green, amethyst, cobalt blue and red.
The buttons on old lids are eight-sided. It has four long sides connected by 4 short lines in the corners; new lids only have six sides. You can tell the difference by comparing the shape of the knob to the shape of the lid. The old buttons and old lids each have 8 sides.
Another difference between old and new lids is the tendril-like border on the sides of the lid. On old lids, this line is almost flat on either side of the middle “V”. On new lids, this line has curves on either side of the center “V”.
If you turn an old glass upside down, you will see a raised circle that was created in the manufacturing process. This circle is approximately 1 3/4 inches in diameter but may vary in size. The bottoms of new glasses are smooth and do not have this raised circle.
It was commonly assumed that old green vessels fluoresce under long-wavelength black light and new green vessels do not. That may have been true once, but it may not be true now. We have several current samples of the new green depression glass that fluoresces. So use the black light test with caution.
Use the information in this article only for the shapes, colors, and patterns discussed. Do not apply the information to other shapes in the same pattern or other patterns in the same colors.
New Knob and rim on the lid Old
Fig. 5 Bottom of the old jug
Mayfair by Hocking Glass
Mayfair by Hocking Glass
Written by Rosemary Trietsch
If you’ve been following my column for the past few months, you’ve probably noticed that I’m in “rose mode.” Well it’s summer; the roses are blooming – at least the ones my rabbit hasn’t eaten – so it seems like the right time of year to be examining glass that goes so well with the season. We’ve previously examined Federal Glass Company’s Mayfair, Rosemary and Sharon and found how copyright issues forced Federal to redesign Mayfair into Rosemary and then discarded both in favor of Sharon, which used the same beautiful rose motif as the other two. This month, let’s take a closer look at Hocking’s “Open Rose” pattern – the pattern that caused all the trouble for the Federal Glass Company but is perhaps the most collected rose colored recessed glass pattern of all time: Mayfair.
The Hocking Glass Company began hand pressing small tableware, lamp parts, and novelty items in Lancaster, Ohio in 1905. By the mid-1920s they had begun the move to automation, releasing their first line of machine-pressed tableware in 1928. Circle, Spiral, and Block Optic were among the first machine-pressed patterns, all of which were primarily produced in green. In 1930, Hocking introduced his first die-etched pattern, Cameo, followed by Princess is in 1931. (The term “die-etched” refers to the way the actual glass molds are made. Rather than pressing the glass and then etching the pattern into each piece individually , the pattern being etched into the metal mold so the pattern is pressed or molded into the glass.) Mayfair was the only other mold-etched pattern Hocking produced and it had the longest production run of the three from 1931 to 1937.
Although pink – also known as flamingo – is the most common color, it is Mayfair blue that most intrigues collectors. Hocking developed a light, almost turquoise blue color sometime around 1930 and only used it for their Mayfair line. It’s a beautiful color – more vivid than sapphire blue and softer than the turquoise Dell Glass Company used for its tulip pattern. There’s nothing quite like it in other Depression patterns, and collectors will snag any blue items they can find almost regardless of price. You will also find pink pieces that have been frosted (acid etched to give a satin finish) with hand painted flowers. These may have started out as a special order or promotion for the holidays, but today there are enough satin pieces to make complete sets, meaning demand was high and Hocking has met. (If ordering satin/painted pieces over the internet or by mail be sure to inquire about the condition of the paint as it wears off easily.) Hocking also produced a much more limited run of green and yellow Mayfair, with not all items in available in these colors. A few pieces have also been made from crystal – the most common being platters, salt and pepper shakers and pitchers – but as there are few collectors of crystal there really is no established value for these things. Buy them if you like them and the price is right.
Since I touched on the price, let me tell you right away that collecting Mayfair in any color takes both patience and a lot of money. If the idea of green or yellow Mayfair intrigues you, let me just say that “book” prices start at $85 each for “standard” 8½-inch lunch plates and 9½-inch grills . After that, it’s all three-digit numbers. (Note: I stress that these are “Book” prices. Green and Yellow items are quite rare and actually sell for a lot more than “Book”.) Blue and Pink are slightly cheaper. The same 8½-inch lunch plate is $55 in blue and $28 in pink. With many collectors competing for whatever is put up for sale, Mayfair is a paragon for the ‘big game hunter’ who enjoys the thrill of the hunt and can be just a little reckless when re-enacting that elusive plate. (You know the scenario: you spot something you need, but you’re a booth over and someone grabs it. Mayfair hunters are good at creating distractions, then diving through the smoke screen and snagging their prey. Who says that collecting glasses is boring?)
As Mayfair had a relatively long production run, you will find variations in the plots created by replaced molds. The 12″ oval platter is available with closed or open handles. (The open-handled platter is slightly larger, at 12 ½ inches.) The base of some mugs is fluted, while others are smooth. There are also variations in the height of the stems, particularly with the 15-ounce iced tea mug. Some of them have a short stalk above the foot, while others have practically no stalk at all. The same height/stem variation also applies to footed sorbets. I bought a set of 8 from someone who bought them new in the 1930’s and two of these sorbets were slightly shorter and the glass shaped thicker. Remember: variations up to ½ inch and from 1 to 4 oz. are the result of shape deviations and can even be caused by the company rounding the measurements for its catalog entries. (15 ounces is much easier to list than 14 ¾ ounces, and the ¼ ounce difference didn’t bother people then; although it drives collectors today to despair.) If your dinner plate is 9 ¼ inches instead of 9 ½ inches, you’ve got it managed no unlisted item found; You’ve just noticed a mold variation between the panels.
An interesting variation found in the Mayfair line concerns the round items that have appeared. In general, the shape of the Mayfair Line is a square with truncated and slightly jagged corners – almost an octagon, but not quite. The plates and bowls are all flat-rimmed, and the biscuit jar, footed candy jar, pitchers, cup, milk jug and sugar are square with paneled corners. But there are some round pegs in this otherwise square world. Round mugs have appeared and there is also a 6 ½ inch round plate. This plate is the saucer for the round cup when plain (as is typical of Hocking patterns, the small plate doubles as a saucer), but it also has an off-center ring to accommodate a shallow 2 ¼ inch sorbet holding a canapé set. All four pieces are hard to find. The cream soup bowl is also round instead of square; In fact, it’s exactly the same shape as the Cameo Cream Soup, right down to the squiggle pattern on the handles. The very rare 3-foot console shell is also very round and very similar in style to the Cameo 3-foot console shell. Only a handful of these have surfaced so far, but at over $6,000, not many collectors can afford them anyway. But it’s nice to dream.
Mayfair seems to have more than its share of rare items, especially considering there’s no such thing as a “common” green or yellow piece. In addition to the tripod console dish, there is a very rare salt and pepper shaker set with feet, similar in design to Miss America’s shakers. It is not documented whether or not these were actually produced: Weatherman reported seeing a set at the Hocking Morgue in 1970, but never found a listing in the Hocking catalogues. At over $9000 they make the Cherry Blossom Shakers downright cheap. The 1-ounce liquor glass and 4 ½-ounce burgundy also require considerable hunting to track down — as well as big bucks to bring them home. Perhaps the most coveted of the rare pieces is the sugar bowl lid. Every once in a while they show up and if you have the money they can be yours. If you were lucky enough to be in San Antonio in February (like me) for Kent Washburn’s amazing show, you might have met the Canadian collector who flew down to the show to pick up his $5000 Mayfair candy cap. He figured the airfare was cheaper than the postage and he wouldn’t need to trust UPS. (The Lid went home first class, by the way; he flew carriage.)
Even if you can’t afford any of these particularly rare pieces, Mayfair has some wonderful pieces in interesting shapes that will brighten up your collection. Like Cameo, Mayfair has a decanter and stopper, although it was only made in pink. The plug is hollow with the Mayfair panels and shells on it. There is also a deep fruit bowl that resembles a cylinder in style. The bowl is approximately 5 inches deep with a serrated rim that widens to 12 inches in diameter. This bowl fits in the center of the 11 ¾ inch shallow bowl – which really looks more like a rolled rim pie plate than a bowl – and together they make a wonderful centerpiece. But my favorite piece is the vase of sweet peas. It’s also hat-shaped and the top edge is ruffled, giving it a tousled look. Because the crimping is done by hand, the top varies in diameter from 8 to 8½ inches and in height varies from 5 to 5½ inches. There is no other vase shaped like this in a regular indented pattern.
Because of its popularity, Mayfair collectors have had their share of reproductions to contend with. Fortunately, the fakes are limited to 4 items that are easily distinguishable from the originals. Cookie jars, shot glasses, shakers and juice jugs have popped up in green, pink, amethyst, cobalt and red. With all of these items, if you ignore the colors that Hocking never made: the pattern is very poorly formed, the glass feels greasy, and the green and pink colors are too light. With cookie jars and juice jugs, the easiest way is to old of to distinguish anew, a look at the floor. Old jugs and biscuit jars have a circle at the bottom, new ones don’t have this ring. Don’t worry about the top of the jar as chances are a fake bottom has a fake lid and vice versa. The handles on the juice jugs are also oddly placed – they look like they got stuck when the glass was hot – and are easy to spot. New shakers are slightly smaller than old shakers. If your eye can judge 1/16 inch, the new 4 inch is 1/16 inch instead of 4. Since I can’t judge this small increment with a ruler, I feel the corner ribs: they are very sharp on the repro pieces and smooth on the originals. On shot glasses, the pattern is done so roughly that your eye should immediately tell you something is wrong: there is a single stem below the flowers instead of two stems forming an “A”, and the detailing on the flowers is rough .
Despite amazingly rare and expensive pieces – and amazingly primitive reproductions – Hazel Marie Weatherman put it best when she wrote: “Our vintage open rose design is perhaps the ‘most’ in many collector’s books – most popular, most collectible , most varied pieces, most widespread… you name it.” (Book 1, p. 115) Those words are as true today as they were 30 years ago when they were first written. Unfortunately for us, however, Hazel’s prediction also comes true: “Hundreds of truckloads of Mayfair were sold in those five years of production, so it’s no wonder so many are available today. Plates and cups and saucers are becoming scarcer by the day, however, and it probably won’t be long before Mayfair is off the shelves.” (Bk1, p. 117) So, dear Mayfair collectors, put your feet on comfortable shoes, slow friends too Leave them at home and visit the nearest glass exhibition when time is short. Carpe Deum!
Authentic vs. Fake Mayfair Open Rose Pink Depression Glass Cookie Jars
Deidra and I found two Mayfair cookie jars while shopping antiques, one authentic and one this dark green reproduction. This was an easily spotted fake as the color was completely wrong, a dark emerald green instead of the light green with a slight yellow tinge that Hocking used for Mayfair.
That’s the fake.
Obvious reproductions like these are beneficial because we can examine them to identify other telltale clues that we can apply when the color isn’t as obvious. We covered telltale clues in the last post here, let’s summarize and show the difference from the real one.
Base: Smooth vs. Mold Circle
Authentic Mayfair cookie jars have a mold circle that you can see or feel on the bottom that is approximately 1 3/4 inches wide. The bottoms of the reproductions are smooth, no circle of mold.
Lid: Curved vs. flat outline
This next clue is a little harder to describe than it is to see in a photo. Look at the outer ridge that runs along the long side of the rim on the lid; it is highlighted. See how it curves? It looks like a summation sign.
Here is the lid of the authentic Mayfair jar. Notice that the same line is flat, almost straight.
Repro pink lenses are about the right color, not so obvious that you can immediately tell they’re fakes. Use these tips to be sure.
Luanne’s cookie jar – real or fake?
Luanne sent me a photo of her Mayfair cookie jar, a lovely find from Goodwill. She wondered if it was reproduced.
What do you think? Real or reproduction?
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